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February 21, 2014 - 2:25 pm

Hello,

I've never installed an NVR or IP Cameras before so im needing a little advice on equipment. I have tried the tech support number a couple of times, even left a message and never heard back. Sales couldn't answer my question. So this is it.

 

I have a clent wanting to install 8 cameras. Running wire is not feasable and the locations are anywhere from 300' to 1000'.

So i figure i need 8 ip cameras and 8 sets of locom5's, correct?

As for the nvr, if i buy the 16 channel poe unit can i go directly from each locom5 into it without the need for a poe switch?

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February 21, 2014 - 2:42 pm

The POE on the NVR is designed to have the cameras connected directly to those ports. For your needs I would have a Loco M5 per camera if you cannot localize cable somehow. Then have a  6th loco near NVR. The 5 for the cameras will talk to the sixth assuming they all have line of site back to the access point loco. If you do not have line of site to access point you would need to get the locos to talk to each other to get the signal back to the access point. Then I would have access point and nvr on same switch going back to router.

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February 21, 2014 - 2:59 pm

Also it would be great if you can give me a rough drawing of the area or and address so I could look it up on Google maps to see what your working with. Hit the PM button to message me privately the address or you can upload a photo here if you feel its ok.

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February 21, 2014 - 3:03 pm

Ok, so one loco per camera and then one on the office where the nvr is, connected to a switch? A poe switch?

For the locos, i will need 9 correct? 1 per camera and the 9th one on the office. Yes i have LOS for all cams.

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February 21, 2014 - 3:04 pm

a regular non poe switch would be fine. Unless you want to connect more cameras from that switch. Then get a POE

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February 21, 2014 - 3:08 pm

im only going to have 1 access point?

 

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February 21, 2014 - 3:24 pm

Wow that's a big piece of property. If you can mount some of the locos on the roofs that would help a lot. Something grounded of course. As I'm not sure which locos would have line of site to access point, I would setup the 5  for cameras to all be able to talk to each other and the 6th as the access point. They will need to be configured before you install anything cameras too. You will want to know that the cameras and locos work before installation. Going on site to do a site survey of network is definitely advised. Then all IPs can programmed ahead of time so your just pulling cable and hanging cameras.  Since you are using the locos I am thinking you would use 12VDC to power cameras instead. That would be a cheaper solution compared to getting POE injectors for each camera. I haven't shopped around for POE injectors so you would need to price that out.  A small 12VDC  supply from us is 12.99

http://www.securitycameraking......-prd1.html

 If you can get a POE injector cheaper I would be very impressed. The Locos come with their own POE injector that are for loco ONLY they are not to be used to power the IP cams. 

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February 21, 2014 - 3:32 pm

Ok thank you. Yes im going to mount all the locos up high on the buildings so that they have line of site back to the office.

Would my setup still be the same if i buy the Hybrid DVR?

 

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February 21, 2014 - 3:41 pm

Yes but the analog cameras are not able to use the locos

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February 21, 2014 - 3:44 pm

Ok, i appreciate it. You've been a big help.

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March 12, 2014 - 10:49 am

Ordering equipment today. Here is a list of major hardware.

1-Hybrid 16 channel dvr

8- IP Cameras

9-Loco Wireless Bridge/AP

1- 4 Port POE Switch

 

Just to make sure i have this correct.

I have my 8 cameras (Locos Attatched) all with line of sight to the office whee the dvr is. I only need one Loco on the office.

The Loco on the office is then attatched to the POE Switch.

The DVR is attatched to the POE Switch.

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March 12, 2014 - 11:30 am

smokey44 said
Ordering equipment today. Here is a list of major hardware.

1-Hybrid 16 channel dvr

8- IP Cameras

9-Loco Wireless Bridge/AP

1- 4 Port POE Switch

 

Just to make sure i have this correct.

I have my 8 cameras (Locos Attatched) all with line of sight to the office whee the dvr is. I only need one Loco on the office.

The Loco on the office is then attatched to the POE Switch.

The DVR is attatched to the POE Switch.

With regards to only needing 1 Loco on the building, if all of the other 8 locos are in the same line, then yes all you need is one on the office.  If the other Loco's are not in direct line of each other, then you will need more at the office.  So for example, if you have the 8 cameras spread around a parking lot and you are sending the internet connection back to the office with the Loco's.  If all the cameras are in different locations outside of a 30 degree spread from the main unit, then you will need multiple Loco's on the main office.  

Now with regards to the connections, the Loco's all come with their own PoE power supply just for their use nothing else.  The Loco's at the main office will have a connection from the router to the LAN port of the Loco's power supply and then a cable coming out of the PoE port of the power supply to the Loco itself.  The DVR should also be connected to the router, this is because the router will be the traffic director for the whole system. 

 

You will also either need PoE or individual power supplies for each camera location. 

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March 12, 2014 - 11:44 am

So it wont get signal outside of 30 degrees? the remote locos will probably be spread in 180 degrees.

 

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March 12, 2014 - 11:50 am

NO, if you are wanting a single point at the office and you need the spread of 180 degrees then you would need an omni directional antenna.  Otherwise you would need multiple Loco's on the office to cover the spread you are looking to get. 

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March 12, 2014 - 4:47 pm

Just to verify...I need the Ubiquiti Rocket M5 with a Ubiquiti 13db antenna correct? I purchased everything else a few minutes ago.

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March 12, 2014 - 5:14 pm

Yes, that should be the unit at the main location. 

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March 12, 2014 - 5:16 pm

ok thank you for your help here and on the phone as well. you guys have a great customer service team.

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