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Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

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Hey Shawn. 

 

Sorry but I didn’t see this threat, I will personally test this and I will reply back to you soon. So If I understand correctly you will be connecting both the speaker and Mic to the camera and been able to talk and listen and talk from the android or NVR web Service. I know in fact that in order to listen and talk you will need to have a mic in your PC either from a headset or build in. on the android I will need to test that but in theory it should work. I will Assume that the Camera in question you are referring to is our Old long range bullet that have Audio pigtails. That model number has change and before used to be a long range camera with a varifocal lens. 

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Hey Jesus,

So glad to see you on my post, I have no doubt the answer, one way or the other, will be determined with you on the job :-)

Yes, those cams were the nice ones back then, still a great camera for 2MP, it certainly sounds like it should work but its not working for me. I don’t do PC at all, just the apps and TV monitor off the NVR. I wanted a mic in the shop (detached location) and powered speaker (horn speaker PA) in that location as well. 

If you have any questions, let me know. Hope I can make it work with these cams, do you know if it is absolutely possible with newer cams if not?

Again, thanks for your help and Merry Christmas if we don;t speak again before the holiday :-)

Have a great day,
Shawn

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ShawninFL,

 

Do you have an amplifier in between the audio out and the PA speaker you are using?

Also, try port forwarding the camera so that you will have direct access to it through the web service or phone application.  This will help to keep the devices to a minimum when trying to accomplish your task.  I just know I have had the NVR limit things in the past and I like to eliminate any potential limiter. 

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Ryan Newkirk said
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Do you have an amplifier in between the audio out and the PA speaker you are using?

Also, try port forwarding the camera so that you will have direct access to it through the web service or phone application.  This will help to keep the devices to a minimum when trying to accomplish your task.  I just know I have had the NVR limit things in the past and I like to eliminate any potential limiter. 

The speaker I am using is the one at the link below…it is powered, has volume control and I have it powered by a separate 24V Transformer. As for port forwarding on the cam, I don;t have this on any of my individual cams, just port forwarding for the NVR itself… should I be forwarding cams individually?  Do you have the scenario I mentioned working?

Thanks

MY SPEAKER: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..#038;psc=1

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ShawnInFL said

Ryan Newkirk said
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Do you have an amplifier in between the audio out and the PA speaker you are using?

Also, try port forwarding the camera so that you will have direct access to it through the web service or phone application.  This will help to keep the devices to a minimum when trying to accomplish your task.  I just know I have had the NVR limit things in the past and I like to eliminate any potential limiter. 

The speaker I am using is the one at the link below…it is powered, has volume control and I have it powered by a separate 24V Transformer. As for port forwarding on the cam, I don;t have this on any of my individual cams, just port forwarding for the NVR itself… should I be forwarding cams individually?  Do you have the scenario I mentioned working?

Thanks

MY SPEAKER: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..#038;psc=1

I  am not using an amplifier. I and using powered computer speakers for this test. i have no way to test with that kind of speakers. 

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Jesus Ragusa said

ShawnInFL said

Ryan Newkirk said
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Do you have an amplifier in between the audio out and the PA speaker you are using?

Also, try port forwarding the camera so that you will have direct access to it through the web service or phone application.  This will help to keep the devices to a minimum when trying to accomplish your task.  I just know I have had the NVR limit things in the past and I like to eliminate any potential limiter. 

The speaker I am using is the one at the link below…it is powered, has volume control and I have it powered by a separate 24V Transformer. As for port forwarding on the cam, I don;t have this on any of my individual cams, just port forwarding for the NVR itself… should I be forwarding cams individually?  Do you have the scenario I mentioned working?

Thanks

MY SPEAKER: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..#038;psc=1

I  am not using an amplifier. I and using powered computer speakers for this test. i have no way to test with that kind of speakers. 

Hey Jesus,

That was a reply to Ryan’s post, your pc speaker should be the exact same scenario, amplifying a preamp signal off the cam audio out jack on pigtail (in theory) and then amplifying to the speaker.

On another note, it’s odd, I can only reply if I quote, the ADD REPLY button does not seem to be working? Just me? 

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Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

Hello Shawn,

We tested the setup with the same exact components and it worked like a charm. See images attached.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grz6z4e2lpfmmfp/a1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41l3vdnlozmx7p3/a2.jpg?dl=0

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ShawnInFL said
Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

Hello Shawn,

We tested the setup with the same exact components and it worked like a charm. See images attached.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grz6z4e2lpfmmfp/a1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41l3vdnlozmx7p3/a2.jpg?dl=0

This is great news!! I see you mentioned exact components… by that you mean the same camera and NVR? It appears you are using a base/stand mic, not the powered mic you guys sell. In my setup, I get a pretty bad hum with the use of the powered mic so was very curious. I was never able to get any audio out of the powered speaker.

I really appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with this, I know that took time!!Other than enabling the audio on both main and extra stream, can you give any advice on the config? Were you able to duplicate 2 way though the android app? 

Exciting to see hope for my setup as I already have the speaker installed in the ceiling. Ran the mic too but happy to get one with non power if that might be an issue.

Looking forward to your reply!!

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ShawnInFL said
Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

Hello Shawn,

We tested the setup with the same exact components and it worked like a charm. See images attached.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grz6z4e2lpfmmfp/a1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41l3vdnlozmx7p3/a2.jpg?dl=0


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ShawnInFL said
Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

Hello Shawn,

We tested the setup with the same exact components and it worked like a charm. See images attached.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grz6z4e2lpfmmfp/a1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41l3vdnlozmx7p3/a2.jpg?dl=0

Looking again, I see you do have a powered mic, a mic larger and nicer one, this is the one I have and get a big hum when I press the speaker icon in the mobile app.

http://www.securitycameraking……6-ctg.html

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ShawnInFL said

mrkuchuk said

ShawnInFL said
Hey Guys,

I wanted to try and post my question again as I am not having much luck with my previous thread where I requested the same scenario. When I purchased the items below, my assumption was that I could add a mic directly to the ip cam audio input jack on the pigtail of the ip cam and also a speaker (powered) directly to the audio out jack on the ip cam pigtail. Then, using the NVR or mobile app, I could listen and speak to the area that was near the cam I was connected to. On one thread I was told this would work with my existing equipment connecting directly to the cams audio in/out, other threads and videos I see on the site mention running mic and speaker feeds both back to the mic in and mic out BNC jacks of the NVR? The NVR is about 300′ wire run from the ip cam location where I wanted to have bi-directional talk. I use a wireless bridge to link the cams and NVR from this location. It seem to only make sense to me that the cam would process the mic/speaker information back to the NVR though the network connection but maybe I just don’t understand what the heck they are on the pigtail for?? 

I have bought many other pieces of equipment from you guys but the NVR and CAM shown below are the two I need to make work.

My question is this, how can I get 2 way (bi-directional) talk, using the mobile app (android), to work with the equipment shown below, again, they were bought from you guys directly.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks,

Shawn

NVR: NVR-ELC-16

CAM:  IPOB-EL2MPIR50

POWERED MIC:  MIC

Hello Shawn,

We tested the setup with the same exact components and it worked like a charm. See images attached.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grz6z4e2lpfmmfp/a1.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41l3vdnlozmx7p3/a2.jpg?dl=0

This is great news!! I see you mentioned exact components… by that you mean the same camera and NVR? It appears you are using a base/stand mic, not the powered mic you guys sell. In my setup, I get a pretty bad hum with the use of the powered mic so was very curious. I was never able to get any audio out of the powered speaker.

I really appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with this, I know that took time!!Other than enabling the audio on both main and extra stream, can you give any advice on the config? Were you able to duplicate 2 way though the android app? 

Exciting to see hope for my setup as I already have the speaker installed in the ceiling. Ran the mic too but happy to get one with non power if that might be an issue.

Looking forward to your reply!!

The only other difference I see is that you guys have the cam and mic powered through 12V, my cams are POE…the cam is POE and the mic is powered through a 12v power supply. 1A

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This is great news!! I see you mentioned exact components… by that you mean the same camera and NVR? It appears you are using a base/stand mic, not the powered mic you guys sell. In my setup, I get a pretty bad hum with the use of the powered mic so was very curious. I was never able to get any audio out of the powered speaker.

I really appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with this, I know that took time!!Other than enabling the audio on both main and extra stream, can you give any advice on the config? Were you able to duplicate 2 way though the android app? 

Exciting to see hope for my setup as I already have the speaker installed in the ceiling. Ran the mic too but happy to get one with non power if that might be an issue.

Looking forward to your reply!!

Shawn, 

We are using the same powered mic, you are using. We did duplicate the 2 way conversation through the Android and it works.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl4lddr7yezzddo/20141223_151452.mp4?dl=0

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Hey Shawn, 

I don’t think it would matter iv the camera is POE or 12V. Anyway I tested both ways and both ways work. Just FYI, you need to login to the camera if you want 2WayAudio from the camera. When I looked to the NVR and tried 2 way then the sound from the speakers will come out from the TV speakers instead.

Thanks

 

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Hey Guys,

Gonna try swapping the cam with similar cam on property I will never need 2 way audio at location.  Your setup is all the exact way I have it going and the pigtail for the mic (audio in) seems lose on the cam I am using in the current setup. Could explain the bad hum as well if their is a short. Will be sure to follow up once the job is done.  I really appreciate all the hard work, the photos/posts/videos are a big plus and I’m sure they can come in handy for other customers in the future.

Thanks again!!

Shawn

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