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Help editing set up on TP cams already on the network to enable motion detection.
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i have two TP cameras I purchased here that do not have motion detection enabled. I now have a tablet with keyboard running Windows 8.1. These cameras are on the network via the POE switch on my 8ch mini NVR. I am able to log into Web Service via the url 192.168.0.108 and see all my cameras. However, I cannot connect to the urls of the TP cams which have a 10.1.1.xxx designation using Explorer 11 to edit the set up menu adding a check to motion detection.I have added the urls to the compatibility view and checked the " download unsigned ActiveX controls".
When I try to log in I get Web Service, but upon putting in the username and password I get a message saying I need to install QuickTime which has been added previously.

So, a few questions:
1.Do I need to unplug the TP cams from the built in POE switch and plug them in one at a time to the router ( with 12 volt power attached) using the url that is set (example 10.1.1.100) to try and access them? Or should I use the default 192.168.1.2?
2. In compatibility view on Explorer should I ad the port like this: 10.1.1.100:8080 or leave off the port?
3. To log into the TP cameras do I add the port to the address or leave it off ? Example 10.1,1.100:8080?

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The procedure to add them is one by one by powering them with the 12v DC power supply and changing the IP address to match the Ip Scheme of the Built In PoE Switch. But if you only need to modify some settings you can access the camera by adding an Ethernet cable from your Computer to one of the ports of the PoE switch and navigating on your IE browser to the cameras Assigned IP address. 

 

Here is an article that has this method. 

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Thanks Jose,
However, here is my problem. I have a windows 8.1 tablet. There is no Ethernet port on these units.
I do have Macs, but will the crossover cable work to edit the set up on the TP cameras? Alternatively, is there another was to access these cams with a tablet running 8.1 and Explorer 11?
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You can either use an Ethernet to Wifi Adapter or on your Mac Have Windows Installed using a Virtual Machine. 

Easiest in your scenario is to remove the cameras from the PoE Switch and make the changes one by one using your Wireless Router and Tablet.

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Yes that would be the easiest.

So ok, I will unplug a TP camera from the POE switch on the NVR and plug it into the Ethernet port on my Airport wireless router.

i will provide 12 volt power to the camera.

1. Then, on my Windows tablet I enter the url of the camera which happens to be a 10.1.1.XXX number. Do I enter it in Explorer like this:10.1.1.100:8080 with the port number or without it?  Then I should get the Web Service page, right.

2. Is there a danger of losing the initial setup you guys did on the TP camera when I unplug it from the NVR?

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You can use this tool to modify the IP Address to the 192.168.1.1 scheme , make the changes then change the IP address back to what you had which is 10.1.1.100. You should not have to change the port or set the port unless it has been changed. 
https://www.securitycameraking.....#038;ind=0

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Ok so let me get this straight. I plug the camera into the router,give it twelve volt power, install this tool on Windows 8.1' and it will find this cam on the network at which point I'll change its url scheme with the aid of this tool from 10.1.1 to 192.168 and then enter the 192.168 address into Explorer to connect to web service? Is this correct?

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Correct once you have made the changes then you can change the IP address to match the PoE switch Ip scheme and connect the camera back onto the unit. 

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Thanks Jose,

So, i can't enable motion detection with this tool I need to be on Web Service, is that correct? Will this tool find every camera on the network or just the camera which I have  plugged directly into my Airport router? Is there a picture of the interface anywhere or a video of this tool in operation?

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The tool is to modify its IP address once you have done this you can access the camera via IE Browser make the changes for motion then use the tool again and connect your camera back to the recorder. 

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Ok I get it, thanks .

if I decide to get the wifi to Ethernet adapter, do I need to make a crossover cable to connect to the Poe switch on the NVR? I wasn't clear whether you had to for the PC as well?

Since the cameras are mounted high up and in hard to reach locations, the way that link you gave me described, might be the easiest was to do it.

Now at least I'll have two ways of approaching it.

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The crossover cable is only for when you do not have a router. In your case you will not need this type of cable.

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Oh, one more thing. Is this the type of device that I need to convert my wifi signal from the Apple router to an Ethernet cable which I would plug into the NVR's POE port? If not can you recommend an easy to set up device?

qid=1418680270&sr=8-8&keywords=Wireless+to+Ethernet+adapter

 

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I have this one here. 

 

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If that has a usb on the end it won't work. These tablets have a charging port, an earphone jack port, and a micro sd card slot and that's it. The way I saw this working was using the wifi to Ethernet switch plugged directly into the Poe with the switch part picking up the wifi signal from my router.  It looks to me like that can't be. Is it? I need to get the tablet somehow connected to the Poe ports on the nvr, right? If this is possible let me know what I'm missing here.

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The USB is used for power to the circuitry. 

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Sorry, Jose but just to clarify...

Ok, so then the usb end would plug into my desktop computer for instance for power and the other end into the Poe switch, acting as an extender to my Airport router which in turn will allow my tablet to access the Poe and cameras using Explorer?

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You can use any USB port. You can even use the USB port on the recorder. 

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Ok,for  powering the device but how do I get my tablet with no ports other than a earphone and a charging port to communicate with the  camera without some kind of direct connection from the POE switch to the tablet?

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This device get powered via a USB port. the Ethernet port gets connected on one of the PoE ports and you log into the SSID that this device transmits on. It would be the same as if you had an Ethernet cable connected to your tablet. 

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