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Will these cameras work fine for this system?
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June 23, 2014 - 2:18 pm
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I’m setting up a security system, 6 vandal proof domes (4 inside, 2 on the porch), and 5 bullet IR cams. I had a few questions about each of them.

First, for the dome cameras, what I need is the ability to see in low light conditions (which seems to be covered) and to pick faces out of a crowd, which it should be able to do when recording at full HD. My main concern is the mounting of the camera – is the dual PoE/power plug the only way to mount these cameras, or is there somewhere I can plug a cord straight in so I don’t have to drill a 1/2″-3/4″ hole in all of my ceilings, and can just do something like 1/8″ for the cable?

I also have the same concern for the outdoor cameras, which will be mounted between 15/25 feet up a wall (front and back yard). Drilling a 3/4″ hole in a brick house isn’t an option, so will I have to use a junction box of some type to mount the cameras to? Not preferable, but can be done if needed. I don’t have to have a bullet IR camera outside, and I would prefer a vandal proof one (maybe this) but I am not sure how either will hold up 15/25 feet in the air and shooting down at an angle, with the ability to see faces.

Basically, my main concern is about what type of camera to use. I would prefer vandal proof, and for the 5 outdoor cameras the ability to see a wide shot with a lot of detail. Will the two types of cameras I have picked out work, or should I go to the “maybe this” camera for the outside? I can supply more information if needed, and I appreciate any help

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All the cameras you listed are POE so you wouldn’t use the other plug at all. On the domes there is a spot on the side that is meant to be cut out so you can run the cable out the side. It looks like a U engraved on it. Just FYI as it is metal that is considered a modification of camera for return purposes. Warranty your fine return not so much. If you are going to mount the domes on a box I would NOT RECOMMEND changing cable routing. use silicone or caulk to make your RJ45 ends water tight. Water in connection will kill the camera.

As for seeing faces that is going to depend on the angel. Obviously straight on is best. I know with Licences plate cameras you do not want an angle of more than 45 degrees. 25 ft away, so distance your good. The lighting conditions for the cameras with out the IRs may be tricky to iron out. I am thinking you will want to set those cameras to day mode all the time, and enable the WDR to manual and tweak the settings at night. 

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Thanks for the reply

I’m aware of not using the 12V plug, and just the PoE plug – my concern was, on the bullet camera, the PoE plug that extends from the camera – will this be able to fit inside of the camera (and then run the network cable into the camera as well), or will it need a special box?

As for the facial recognition, I appreciate the tips. I hope to get my hand on 1 of each soon to find the best stops – I can only roughly estimate where I should put them without getting my hands on one

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You will need to put the end in a box in most cases if you cannot mount camera directly on wall. If you can then you could just silicone the hole. Something also to consider you may want to put your Ethernet cable in conduit as Ethernet cable is susceptible to EMI. If you run it near power lines you may have an issue if it is not in conduit. 

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Am I correct in assuming the bullet camera is metal? I cannot find where it says otherwise.

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Yes the housing is metal. The only part on the outside that is not is the lens cover. 

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