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Whether a 2nd remote NVR would just be easier than other alternatives like NAS devices
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Hi all, 

Recently received excellent one on one email support fr Jose (& others at tech suppt)  and he suggested I start using the forums here instead.

Here are my thinking out loud questions to NVR users who also want to have a 2nd (remote) storage location of the surveillance footage captured for watever reason..

It seems that there’s work involved and it can be quite a bit (I’m an IT integrator that does networking for a living) in getting either an NAS set up (whether Synology or QNAP with Surveillance Station, both NAS vendors have it) OR using a shared folder as a FTP recipient and then syncing that to the clous with any number of DropBox like alternatives and then worrying baout quotas and such..

I am JUST thinking out loud here, on whether it would just be easier to simply have another NVR set up at a remote location receiving a duplicate feed.

 

Who here has a 2nd NVR set up at a remote locaiton simply for the purposes of having a 2nd repository offsite as a backup of the surveillance footage?

Thanx to all for considering..

-P in Boston, MA

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I have seen that done successfully several times. On our Elite series units, the is especially easy to set up. You just set up the remote machine to contact the target machine. Port forwarding remains the same as for remote client connection. (you don’t have to set ports for each camera, just the DVR/NVR itself) 

Then to add the cameras, you pick ‘Private’ protocol and there is a channel select drop down – enter the remote DVR IP and select which channel you want from it.

The only limiting factor is upstream bandwidth at the central location. You will be sending all cameras at full resolution out the door to the remote recorder. An upstream rate of 1 or 2Mb isn’t going to cut it for that amount of data.

But in the long run, considering storage fees for FTP or Box or similar – it should work out in your favor to go with the remote NVR.

That’s my two cents woth…

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TY Ted

The present NVR i have is the Sibell 

16 Channel 4K Mini 1U Sibell NVR, NVR-SB16ME

link is:  https://www.securitycameraking.com/NVR-SB16ME.html

Does this qulaify as an Elite series and would i just obtain an additional unit? (you mention ELite series above)

That sounds very easy

Bandwidth is not a problem, it’s Verizon FIOS at both locations, almost Gig Ethernet both upstream and downstream (940Mbps dn and 870Mbps upstream), from what i can determine very little bandwidth is being used presently and both sites have VOIP telephones service but that doesnt add much at all in terms of demand, so the video upstreaming from origination and dnstreaming to “duplicate remote location” NVR would be primary consumer of the bandwidth.

 

CAN the remote NVR ALSO be used as its own local target for ONVIF devices?

I think Matt mentioned on the phone that these type NVRs are ONVIF version 2.3 compatible?

Ty again. 

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-P  The SiBell units are not the Elite series but they will do the same thing. On the remote recorder, we need to be sure you are running the latest firmware. The new firmware , when you go to ‘Manual Add’ on the camera page, you’ll get a header to ‘Add Recorder’. If you don’t see that, then we need to do a firmware upgrade on it. Otherwise, yes, the SiBells will do that.

I am not clear on what you are asking about the local target for Onvif devices. The recorder is Onvif compatible, and can be used to record most Onvif compatible cameras.

You could be receiving channels from the remote DVR/NVR as well as local Onvif cameras at the same time.

Let me know if that answer makes sense!

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petergats said
TY Ted

The present NVR i have is the Sibell 

16 Channel 4K Mini 1U Sibell NVR, NVR-SB16ME

link is:  https://www.securitycameraking.com/NVR-SB16ME.html

Does this qulaify as an Elite series and would i just obtain an additional unit? (you mention ELite series above)

That sounds very easy

Bandwidth is not a problem, it’s Verizon FIOS at both locations, almost Gig Ethernet both upstream and downstream (940Mbps dn and 870Mbps upstream), from what i can determine very little bandwidth is being used presently and both sites have VOIP telephones service but that doesnt add much at all in terms of demand, so the video upstreaming from origination and dnstreaming to “duplicate remote location” NVR would be primary consumer of the bandwidth.

 

CAN the remote NVR ALSO be used as its own local target for ONVIF devices?

I think Matt mentioned on the phone that these type NVRs are ONVIF version 2.3 compatible?

Ty again.   

To understand our SKUS. 

NVR-EL32ME

NVR Elite 32 channels Mini Economy. 

This is the same for your recorder. 

NVR-SB16ME

NVR Sibell 16 Channel Mini Economy. 

For cameras is the same

IPOD-EL3IRE

IP Camera Outdoor Dome – Elite 3MP IR Enabled Economy

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